Right… But they used the wrong nails and they now extend past the fence (and property line, I’m assuming). What if they had used 12-inch nails? 3-foot ones?
Considering that the posts driven into the ground are still on the neighbors property… and the nails clearly don’t extend past that. No. It doesn’t extend into OPs property.
Further, it’s not normal for a fence to be directly on the property boundary. You inset it a foot or two. In this case you can see that OPs fence is also between this taller fence and the camera. There’s “dead space” between the property due to the fences. The boundary will actually be between them somewhere.
While this looks like shit… specifically because of the obvious poor craftsmanship. This is literally $5 nailsnips from harbor freight fixable.
What if they had used 12-inch nails? 3-foot ones?
I refuse to whataboutism a picture where we can literally observe what is happening.
If the fence is directly on the boundary, then it’s a shared fence. You set it in a foot to establish in good faith that it’s strictly yours. Shared fences have a bunch of legal issues just because sharing property with other people often sucks. If you’ve lived in a development with shared fences you should look at your HOA’s CC&Rs. There’s always a lengthy chapter on how the walls should be handled. Just to cut out the legal nonsense that always comes with shared fences/walls.
The HOA I live in won’t even let you have an actual fence like in the OP the only thing they allow is a shitty metal pole fence that isn’t even tall enough to keep a determined dog in and offers no privacy. Also because every yard on the street is visible to every other yard we get to listen to everyone’s dogs barking at each other constantly.
It’s pretty normal to have fences on property lines, why pay 4x the price for fences? Talk to your neighbor, and build it on the property line as one single fence. Do some municipalities prevent that or something? I’ve never heard of that, but this is in Canada though.
Not two fences each 3 feet back so you can legally build it without trespassing, that’s just wild that’s a thing, sure that’s not fencing contractors trying to get more work with bylaw fudging?
The problem is the shared ownership aspect… Eg, your neighbor moves… new neighbors. They don’t want the fence or refuse to pay for the shared upkeep on the fence. Now you’re stuck with the bill or fighting them over it.
There isn’t shared upkeep? If you want to maintain yours, you do, if you neighbor does they do. It’s a fence, you can literally leave it for 2 decades and it won’t do anything. Maybe paint your side once every 5 years. What upkeep are you referring to? If it’s like OPs picture and a couple of slats, I’m sure you could find the $10 and not need to bitch with your neighbor over the price of a coffee… yeah?
Now you’re stuck with the bill or fighting them over it.
You mean the exact situation as before that got remedied by talking to them and coming to an agreement…? Surely you could also do this with the new neighbors… no? Where I am you sign a covenant when you buy the land, if you don’t sign the convenant, while you don’t get to buy the land. Sounds like you maybe just live in a place that lacks civility in codes and laws? There wouldn’t be anything to fight over because you either agree when buy, or you sign it away. This is the norm everywhere I’ve built regarding shared fences, because you know permits and competent property management systems in municipalities figured this out decades ago. Get with the times America lmfao.
You’ve talked yourself in an entire circle in 2 comments dude.
It’s pretty normal to have fences on property lines, why pay 4x the price for fences?
Because that would be a shared fence. Which all parties that adjoin that fence would have ownership stake in and therefore share the costs of.
There isn’t shared upkeep?
And yet here we are looking at a picture of someone attempting poorly to upkeep a fence. Gee golly did you just talk yourself into a circle hur durr?
If you want to maintain yours, you do, if you neighbor does they do.
Not if it’s a shared asset. Now you’re describing individual fences set back into the property. Gee golly did you just talk yourself into a circle hur durr?
It’s a fence, you can literally leave it for 2 decades and it won’t do anything.
Depends on where you live, the quality of the wood, if there’s any critters doing damage… etc…
Tell me you’re not a homeowner without telling me you’re not a homeowner. I have fucking cinderblock walls, and even they require maintenance more often than every decade. Let alone 2.
What upkeep are you referring to?
Literally look at the post you knucklehead.
I’m sure you could find the $10 and not need to bitch with your neighbor over the price of a coffee… yeah?
If it’s a shared wall, simply chucking $10 of shit lumber at the fence could actually make the property worse… Case and point look at the fucking picture of the OP. If it’s shared, that could be a legal problem if all parties don’t unanimously agree.
You mean the exact situation as before that got remedied by talking to them and coming to an agreement…?
No. Because lots of people out there are fucking looney tunes. And lots of people out there don’t give a flying fuck about you. Many will only look out for themselves and cause you whatever problems they want to cause because to them it doesn’t fucking matter. Case and point. OP is bitching that it looks like shit. It’s not even their fucking fence to complain about. The fact that we see 2 fences here shows that each property is maintaining their own fence.
Where I am you sign a covenant when you buy the land, if you don’t sign the convenant, while you don’t get to buy the land.
Okay Buffy.
Edit: LMFAO So now you report this comment… Good job!
So which rule does this post break? Me pointing out that you did the same thing you claimed I did is rule 1 is it? I was clear what I was talking about, you were just being argumentative as shit.
Insults the person and is uncivil and asks what rule they broke. Maybe read the rules in a community before commenting…?
Lmfao. You’re an uncivil dick who started the comment off with an insult, I reported you for breaking more than one rule. And now you’re pissy since you’ve got caught being the argumentative dick and are being petty about being reported for your own actions.
Have more info in the parent comment i left but to give you empirical scenarios for two fences not back to back: neighbor A put in pool before neighbor B put up fence. A’s pool fence was done to look good around pool while B’s fence installed later was done by contractor instructed to fence the perimeter.
One fence was installed diy based on an mutually implied property line. New neighbor moves in to house without fence and installs their fence to actual surveyed property line.
Right… But they used the wrong nails and they now extend past the fence (and property line, I’m assuming). What if they had used 12-inch nails? 3-foot ones?
Looks like they’ve got their own, shorter fence on their side of the property line
Thank you, I somehow looked right at it and disregarded it.
Considering that the posts driven into the ground are still on the neighbors property… and the nails clearly don’t extend past that. No. It doesn’t extend into OPs property.
Further, it’s not normal for a fence to be directly on the property boundary. You inset it a foot or two. In this case you can see that OPs fence is also between this taller fence and the camera. There’s “dead space” between the property due to the fences. The boundary will actually be between them somewhere.
While this looks like shit… specifically because of the obvious poor craftsmanship. This is literally $5 nailsnips from harbor freight fixable.
I refuse to whataboutism a picture where we can literally observe what is happening.
Ah, I didn’t know about the 1-2 foot inset. And my argument was a “slippery slope” one, not Whataboutism!
If the fence is directly on the boundary, then it’s a shared fence. You set it in a foot to establish in good faith that it’s strictly yours. Shared fences have a bunch of legal issues just because sharing property with other people often sucks. If you’ve lived in a development with shared fences you should look at your HOA’s CC&Rs. There’s always a lengthy chapter on how the walls should be handled. Just to cut out the legal nonsense that always comes with shared fences/walls.
The HOA I live in won’t even let you have an actual fence like in the OP the only thing they allow is a shitty metal pole fence that isn’t even tall enough to keep a determined dog in and offers no privacy. Also because every yard on the street is visible to every other yard we get to listen to everyone’s dogs barking at each other constantly.
It’s pretty normal to have fences on property lines, why pay 4x the price for fences? Talk to your neighbor, and build it on the property line as one single fence. Do some municipalities prevent that or something? I’ve never heard of that, but this is in Canada though.
Not two fences each 3 feet back so you can legally build it without trespassing, that’s just wild that’s a thing, sure that’s not fencing contractors trying to get more work with bylaw fudging?
The problem is the shared ownership aspect… Eg, your neighbor moves… new neighbors. They don’t want the fence or refuse to pay for the shared upkeep on the fence. Now you’re stuck with the bill or fighting them over it.
There isn’t shared upkeep? If you want to maintain yours, you do, if you neighbor does they do. It’s a fence, you can literally leave it for 2 decades and it won’t do anything. Maybe paint your side once every 5 years. What upkeep are you referring to? If it’s like OPs picture and a couple of slats, I’m sure you could find the $10 and not need to bitch with your neighbor over the price of a coffee… yeah?
You mean the exact situation as before that got remedied by talking to them and coming to an agreement…? Surely you could also do this with the new neighbors… no? Where I am you sign a covenant when you buy the land, if you don’t sign the convenant, while you don’t get to buy the land. Sounds like you maybe just live in a place that lacks civility in codes and laws? There wouldn’t be anything to fight over because you either agree when buy, or you sign it away. This is the norm everywhere I’ve built regarding shared fences, because you know permits and competent property management systems in municipalities figured this out decades ago. Get with the times America lmfao.
You’ve talked yourself in an entire circle in 2 comments dude.
You’re special eh?
Because that would be a shared fence. Which all parties that adjoin that fence would have ownership stake in and therefore share the costs of.
And yet here we are looking at a picture of someone attempting poorly to upkeep a fence. Gee golly did you just talk yourself into a circle hur durr?
Not if it’s a shared asset. Now you’re describing individual fences set back into the property. Gee golly did you just talk yourself into a circle hur durr?
Depends on where you live, the quality of the wood, if there’s any critters doing damage… etc…
Tell me you’re not a homeowner without telling me you’re not a homeowner. I have fucking cinderblock walls, and even they require maintenance more often than every decade. Let alone 2.
Literally look at the post you knucklehead.
If it’s a shared wall, simply chucking $10 of shit lumber at the fence could actually make the property worse… Case and point look at the fucking picture of the OP. If it’s shared, that could be a legal problem if all parties don’t unanimously agree.
No. Because lots of people out there are fucking looney tunes. And lots of people out there don’t give a flying fuck about you. Many will only look out for themselves and cause you whatever problems they want to cause because to them it doesn’t fucking matter. Case and point. OP is bitching that it looks like shit. It’s not even their fucking fence to complain about. The fact that we see 2 fences here shows that each property is maintaining their own fence.
Okay Buffy.
Edit: LMFAO So now you report this comment… Good job!
So which rule does this post break? Me pointing out that you did the same thing you claimed I did is rule 1 is it? I was clear what I was talking about, you were just being argumentative as shit.
Insults the person and is uncivil and asks what rule they broke. Maybe read the rules in a community before commenting…?
Lmfao. You’re an uncivil dick who started the comment off with an insult, I reported you for breaking more than one rule. And now you’re pissy since you’ve got caught being the argumentative dick and are being petty about being reported for your own actions.
Look in the mirror troll.
Bless your heart. You really are special.
Edit: Now you’ve gone through my recent posts and downvoted each of them. Congrats! What a waste of your time. But I’m “the troll”.
Edit2: WAAAAAAHHHHH
Have more info in the parent comment i left but to give you empirical scenarios for two fences not back to back: neighbor A put in pool before neighbor B put up fence. A’s pool fence was done to look good around pool while B’s fence installed later was done by contractor instructed to fence the perimeter.
One fence was installed diy based on an mutually implied property line. New neighbor moves in to house without fence and installs their fence to actual surveyed property line.