In Gnome’s defense, they also make it really easy to replace or customize the vast majority of things to an almost surprising degree and while their extension SDK is a bit weird with some choices, it’s also fairly friendly to anyone with some JS experience.
I used to not be a fan either, but 44 and 45 have felt pretty good to use with minimal changes. Some of the more recent design guidelines they’ve refined have made a huge difference. I use Dash to Dock, but that’s the only real UX change I use nowadays.
I still dislike the macOS-like launcher menu for apps. But I also don’t care for an application menu or windows 7-style menu so I live with it.
Hmm, disagree here. How to replace the icons, the fonts, the buttons in the header, the positioning of the buttons?
In GNOME thats CSD (client side decoration) and either baked into the apps, or I guess nonexistant. On KDE its SSD and customizable, although mostly broken or worse than breeze.
Gnome Tweaks, dconf UI or cli, or extensions can adjust all of those things, CSD included. I wish it was more baked into the settings, fwiw. One of the first things I do is move the CSD buttons to the macOS location.
I definitely agree the baked-in CSD is annoying at times, but now that Wayland has matured a lot and most apps have adjusted to baked-in CSD along with adding Wayland support, it’s pretty rare to run into problems.
Also… if you’ve only tried gnome recently on Ubuntu, def recommend trying it on debian or another distro that doesn’t drastically change everything about it.
(And of course, all that said, desktop choice is wonderful and no one has to settle for anything, big or small 🙂)
In Gnome’s defense, they also make it really easy to replace or customize the vast majority of things to an almost surprising degree and while their extension SDK is a bit weird with some choices, it’s also fairly friendly to anyone with some JS experience.
I used to not be a fan either, but 44 and 45 have felt pretty good to use with minimal changes. Some of the more recent design guidelines they’ve refined have made a huge difference. I use Dash to Dock, but that’s the only real UX change I use nowadays.
I still dislike the macOS-like launcher menu for apps. But I also don’t care for an application menu or windows 7-style menu so I live with it.
Hmm, disagree here. How to replace the icons, the fonts, the buttons in the header, the positioning of the buttons?
In GNOME thats CSD (client side decoration) and either baked into the apps, or I guess nonexistant. On KDE its SSD and customizable, although mostly broken or worse than breeze.
Gnome Tweaks, dconf UI or cli, or extensions can adjust all of those things, CSD included. I wish it was more baked into the settings, fwiw. One of the first things I do is move the CSD buttons to the macOS location.
I definitely agree the baked-in CSD is annoying at times, but now that Wayland has matured a lot and most apps have adjusted to baked-in CSD along with adding Wayland support, it’s pretty rare to run into problems.
Also… if you’ve only tried gnome recently on Ubuntu, def recommend trying it on debian or another distro that doesn’t drastically change everything about it.
(And of course, all that said, desktop choice is wonderful and no one has to settle for anything, big or small 🙂)
I tried it on Fedora do vanilla too.
I dont know. I have lots of Gnome/Gnome circle/GTK apps I really like
But the desktop? Not yet convinced