Nothing anecdotal about that, but sure. And my entire point from the start was that black causes less strain than light gray.
At the end of the day, you have your opinions, I have mine, and I’m sure you’re right that dark gray is better than black for eye strain, but in the real world it doesn’t work like that due to the reasons I laid out above; monitor calibrations and web devs who just throw whatever shade of gray they want on to it.
I just posted a study showing the problems of black/white. I don’t disagree about the overuse of light grey/white, but it’s really irrelevant to what I said.
The reason I felt what you were saying was anecdotal is because consistent black is really a feature of amoled screens. If a screen is so badly calibrated that dark grey is coming out substantially lighter then it’s probably going to doing something similar to black.
I don’t disagree about the overuse of light grey/white, but it’s really irrelevant to what I said.
My entire point from the very start, the point that you’re replying to, was about the differences in shades of gray, be that from calibration or design choice lol.
If a screen is so badly calibrated that dark grey is coming out substantially lighter then it’s probably going to doing something similar to black.
From my experience of using screens like this for years, no, it doesn’t. Black is black. Gray varies by screen, and more importantly, by web dev.
No developer ponders what shade of black to use, it’s 000000. Gray… Not quite as clear cut.
It feels like we’re arguing semantics for the sake of it, you’re entitled to your opinion, as am I. You misinterpreted what I meant from the start, maybe I could have been more explicit. Whatever the case, have a good evening.
It felt like you kept trying to reframe what you actually said rather than admit to being mistaken. You bemoaned the choice of grey/white over black/white. I pointed out studies showing dark grey/white to be objectively better - and rather than say “mb I meant light grey specifically”, you tried to BS about dark grey being rendered as light grey, and black always appearing black - based solely on your own experience. It’s cool - I’m done. Have a good evening.
I mean, I wasn’t mistaken, you drew false conclusions from what I said from the offset, then dug your heals in when I made it crystal clear what was meant, time and time again. Anyway.
You said grey/white causes more eye strain than black/white. I posted a study showing black/white is worse than dark grey/white, and you’ve danced around the whole thing ever since. But sure - I’m the one digging my heels in.
Yep, that’s right, you drew false conclusions from the start, in that I was referring to the same shade of gray as in the study; which, incidentally, was far more focused on light background & dark text vs dark background & light text, than it was black text vs gray text, so it wasn’t even really relevant to begin with.
Nothing anecdotal about that, but sure. And my entire point from the start was that black causes less strain than light gray.
At the end of the day, you have your opinions, I have mine, and I’m sure you’re right that dark gray is better than black for eye strain, but in the real world it doesn’t work like that due to the reasons I laid out above; monitor calibrations and web devs who just throw whatever shade of gray they want on to it.
I just posted a study showing the problems of black/white. I don’t disagree about the overuse of light grey/white, but it’s really irrelevant to what I said.
The reason I felt what you were saying was anecdotal is because consistent black is really a feature of amoled screens. If a screen is so badly calibrated that dark grey is coming out substantially lighter then it’s probably going to doing something similar to black.
My entire point from the very start, the point that you’re replying to, was about the differences in shades of gray, be that from calibration or design choice lol.
From my experience of using screens like this for years, no, it doesn’t. Black is black. Gray varies by screen, and more importantly, by web dev.
No developer ponders what shade of black to use, it’s 000000. Gray… Not quite as clear cut.
You said “White background & gray text” in your original post - not light grey.
“From my experience of using screens like this for years”
Literally anecdotal. Search for “washed out black screen” - countless examples of black appearing grey.
“No developer ponders what shade of black to use”
And the evidence shows that if it’s on a white background, they should be pondering what else to use.
I agree that web developers/designers should be better informed about this - but the trend is probably in the right direction.
It feels like we’re arguing semantics for the sake of it, you’re entitled to your opinion, as am I. You misinterpreted what I meant from the start, maybe I could have been more explicit. Whatever the case, have a good evening.
It felt like you kept trying to reframe what you actually said rather than admit to being mistaken. You bemoaned the choice of grey/white over black/white. I pointed out studies showing dark grey/white to be objectively better - and rather than say “mb I meant light grey specifically”, you tried to BS about dark grey being rendered as light grey, and black always appearing black - based solely on your own experience. It’s cool - I’m done. Have a good evening.
I mean, I wasn’t mistaken, you drew false conclusions from what I said from the offset, then dug your heals in when I made it crystal clear what was meant, time and time again. Anyway.
You said grey/white causes more eye strain than black/white. I posted a study showing black/white is worse than dark grey/white, and you’ve danced around the whole thing ever since. But sure - I’m the one digging my heels in.
Yep, that’s right, you drew false conclusions from the start, in that I was referring to the same shade of gray as in the study; which, incidentally, was far more focused on light background & dark text vs dark background & light text, than it was black text vs gray text, so it wasn’t even really relevant to begin with.
Glad we finally agree!