I saw this post and wanted to ask the opposite. What are some items that really aren’t worth paying the expensive version for? Preferably more extreme or unexpected examples.

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    11 months ago

    I would be careful with gadgets that have software on them like phones and laptops. God knows what kind of Chinese spyware they come with.

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        10 months ago

        This is classic whataboutism. You should try to avoid it because it’s an incredibly poor defense if nothing else.

        I’ve been bitching about the PATRIOT Act since less than a week after 9/11 happened. The Act’s continued existence doesn’t excuse China’s well-documented bad behavior.

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            10 months ago

            If you spent any time reading the articles, you would see Australian sources for incidents dating back to 2012, Lithuanians reporting in 2018, and various private security companies also weighing in.

            If the only defence you have for bad behavior is that other people do it, then I guess slavery, mass murder, torture, and theft are all okay. I don’t accept when people do those things, and not because I haven’t done them but because I believe they are damaging to society no matter who does them. That applies to various acts on the national level, as well.

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        10 months ago

        When it comes to hardware, isn’t the situation usually…

        • American company is spying on customers through hardware it sold
        • American government is actively trying to spy on citizens through hardware (American-made or not), but the company blocks them unless they have a warrant
        • Chinese company freely shares data back and forth through the Chinese government using their hardware thanks to “backdoors”
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      11 months ago

      Actually, that’s super exciting! I would have a fun time taking it apart, analyzing it, and publishing it. Would be great publicity, and would probably make me more money than the laptop/phone/whatever cost me.

      That being said, the USA has the most established history of compromising cryptography and security. It’s not so much that I trust China or don’t trust the USA, it’s that I don’t trust any superpower, am fairly wary of nations in general, and in fact don’t have much trust for organizations of anything over a handful of people.

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      11 months ago

      And the rest of the world will say the same with respect to American spyware.

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        10 months ago

        As a foreign nation, why would you use a core piece of software on all your government computers? I’ll never understand why Windows is used in any secure government installation, let alone non-American ones.

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          Because Microsoft forces itself on countries with deals. Its how they have always done things. Contractual lock in until folks are stuck needing windows for proprietary software.

          Microsoft actively goes to schools and governments using linux or mac and makes cheap contracts, at first, to move them all and they bribe too.

          Monopoly is their goal always

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      11 months ago

      If you are seriously worried about privacy you could always use open source stuff. Some hardware from China has compatibility with open source firmware cause they’re built out of those projects. The software risk from that stuff is about as high as shit from anywhere else.