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Migrating to lemm.ee
This is not true. Anyone that clicks anything remotely socialist immediately gets fed with the completely opposite, gommunism no food and 100gorillionbillion deaths propaganda. It immediately tries to lead people to the opposite.
I hate this shit. Just make darkmode the default.
Accepting that is counterproductive to making Lemmy a worthwhile space that will continue existing though.
Keeping people around requires being more than just “not reddit”. It requires Lemmy to be a community of people that actually create value in and of themselves. Until they reject just being a secondary reddit and be lemmy the space will not mature and come into its own. It will remain a space that just takes content from reddit and rehosts it, one that follows rather than leads.
I think the nationalist brainworms of americans do most of the heavy lifting, combined with the fact liberals are completely without principles. It’s not dissimilar to how they’ll happily use homophobia to attack Republicans or whoever the current international villain is simply because “they’re bad so it’s ok”. This same lack of principles applies to history too, which they will rewrite to suit their nationalist goals at any time with no principles or scruples. The core issue is nationalism. Anyone you can deprogram and change into an internationalist stops all of this.
This is not uncommon unfortunately. It’s actually gotten significantly worse in the last 5 years or so, like 15 years ago it was just taken as fact by literally everybody that pretty much everything in the cold war was bullshit. But with the rising anti-russia sentiment and obviously the war it’s like literally everything from that period is now just taken as fact. It’s wild. Even the extremely easy to disprove stuff like this.
EDIT: I feel like this user is a bot given how it’s gone and responded so many times below and then mixed up the conversations elsewhere.
I misspoke, it’s not 20million it’s 9million for specifically hunger. The 20million figure I used here comes from adding in clean water and curable disease. It’s still an extremely basic and charitable figure for the extremely preventable deaths that occur under capitalism.
If the CIA’s own declassified internal documents refuting the cold war propaganda that you are spouting isn’t enough for you then nothing ever will be. You’re repeating the cold war propaganda line, I’m showing you that the CIA’s own documents at the time refute it, because obviously internally you can’t lie to yourselves about the matter even if you are doing propaganda publicly about it. You don’t want to acknowledge or absorb it because it would mean having to self-crit and readjust an ideological position you’re committed to.
on the other hand nobody’s starving.
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP85M00363R000601440024-5.pdf
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/DOC_0000498133.pdf
CIA’s own declassified documents a good enough source for you?
I also contest the “nobody’s starving” point you seem to be making. A hundred million people die every 5 years to starvation under capitalism.
Ironic. Star Trek is communist.
Who gives a fuck? The car isn’t decorated for you it’s decorated for its owner. Same goes with how a person chooses to dress or decorate their body.
Ultimately just another form of “your body exists for my enjoyment”.