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  • it doesn’t mean they are adhered to based on faith

    If not “faith” then what? Note that “faith” doesn’t need to mean some higher power; it just needs to be something you believe without evidence. Any “evidence” you claim to have experienced to support your worldview must inherently be interpreted through an existing lens of one’s own world view, which circularly depends on one’s axioms. You fundamentally cannot have a worldview without some amount of faith in something.

    More concretely, the only thing one can prove a priori is “cogito ergo sum” (“I think, therefore I am”). Any further cognitive reasoning requires faith in one or more axioms about the world, e.g. “the world exists independent of my own perception”.


  • MooseBoys@lemmy.worldtoMildly Infuriating@lemmy.worldHow is woke a religion?
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    principled stance derived from logic

    Those logical conclusions must inherently flow from philosophical axioms that comprise the person’s world view. Two of the most fundamental axioms that lead to supporting FOSS are not supported by everyone. Namely:

    1. What is “good” exists independent of human convention (i.e. Kantian vs. Utilitarian ethical belief system)
    2. Humans should endeavor to be morally good (i.e. Altruism vs. Egoism)

    Those axioms cannot be logically derived from some fundamental truth - they must come from one’s own personal belief system, i.e. their “religion” (definition 3).

    Someone following Kantian ethics and Altruism morality (whether or not they’re aware of the names) will probably end up favoring FOSS. Someone who has a more Utilitarian and Egoistic world view will probably be okay with proprietary software.

    This is all kind of a moot point because I don’t think this sense of the word is what Musk was referring to - he was probably using it as sense 1 sarcastically and mockingly.


  • the two are not the same

    The dictionary lists this for use #3 for religion:

    ”a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith”

    In this sense of the word, many people, including atheists, do have a religion deeply rooted in their worldview.

    A concrete example is people who fervently believe that FOSS is the only good way to make software, and that proprietary software is evil. Many of those people are unwilling to even consider the merits of the latter. In this sense, those beliefs very much qualify as “religious” in this sense of the word.