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Cake day: June 21st, 2023

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  • Thirded. Get an Brother inkvestment model. No bullshit, it just does your bidding, like a printer should. And the ink lasts a very long time.

    Yes, everyone says get a B&W laser printer. If that fits your needs do so. We have kids that want or need to print in color fairly often, and color laser was out of the question last time we purchased.

    Brother is the now only brand I look at after decades of buying consumer printers. If absolutely forced not to buy Brother, I’d go with Epson. I used to love Canon, but each model started incorporating more and more bullshit, and I found their ink to be both expensive and short lived. HP is the king of printer bullshit, but Canon seems to want to sit on their court in recent years.




  • You should try Linux because you want to and find it interesting to learn. If you are doing it because other people told you to, you are going to have a bad time.

    Linux isn’t Windows with different branding. Things work differently, and if you take the time to understand why you’ll usually see the logic eventually, even if you may not to agree with it. I think folks are bristling a bit at your implication that things are hard on purpose somehow. Many experienced users find the terminal easier to use and more efficient; it shouldn’t shock anyone (including you) that it’s going to feel awkward when you don’t understand it yet.

    Howtos tend to use the terminal because it’s likely to work the same for everyone regardless of what other choices they’ve made with desktop environment, etc.

    You can do nearly everything with a GUI if you choose.





  • I get that, but the proper response is definitely NOT “yeah it’s Linux’s fault” just because OP doesn’t look further than that. (Edit: forgot you were OP when I first wrote this. Oops.)

    I’m beyond caring if someone takes a superficial look and goes back. Years ago I felt compelled to try saying “hey you didn’t stick with it long enough, let me try to convince you that you’ll eventually see all the other ways its better” now I’m (apparently) the asshole who says, “If you want to use Linux, great, let me know if you need any help. If you want to go back to Windows, the door’s over there.”

    The argument “If you want Linux to succeed” no longer holds any sway for me. Linux has succeeded. It doesn’t need every last person who doesn’t currently use it to start using it in order to continue succeeding. 10 years ago we’d never have believed Linux gaming would be where it is today. 15 years ago it was madness to think desktop Linux usage would be as commonly discussed and known as it is today. 16 (edit: 16, not 18) years ago I crossed the threshold where I no longer needed Windows, and a shitload of people have done the same since then. (And a pretty big chunk of people did it before me - when it was MUCH harder to do)

    No one who values privacy or actual ownership of their OS and hardware, and doesn’t buy that they have to share control of it with Microsoft (or any entity), is going to stay with Windows for the long-haul, and MS makes that argument stronger and stronger every single year, while desktop Linux continues being refined and getting better and better. Not everyone shares those values, and that’s fine. Plenty do, and we live in a modern era that brings such issues to the forefront over and over again.

    So when a random person says “this single game is what made me go back to Windows” I wish them all the best, but when members of the Linux community (or worse, folks who are not) tell me I should be kissing their ass, that pisses me off. (Not saying you are doing so - edit - you kinda are actually)




  • I don’t feel the need to sell Linux to someone who isn’t interested or who has already decided they are going back to Windows.

    OP didn’t ask for help. OP said “This one game doesn’t work for me, gaming on Linux is a pain in the ass, I’m going back to Windows.” (paraphrasing)

    You are not going to convince me coddling those kinds of posts is beneficial to the community.

    I’d use BSD or even (shudder) MacOS before I used Windows - and while not everyone needs to feel that way, I reject on its face the idea that the primary goal of the Linux community is to endlessly try to convince people who have decided to go back to Windows not to go back to windows.

    I use Linux because I like Linux. I like to interact with people who like Linux. I love to help people who want to learn to like Linux.

    If someone looks at the totality of awfulness that is Windows and MS (and i say that as someone who supports Windows on the sever and the desktop) and decides it’s worth it to go back because they want to play a specific game, that’s fine, but I feel no obligation to beg and cajole them to come back, and I bristle at the implication that I, or the community at large, should.

    I’m also not going to pretend that a post saying they are doing so is in any way a contribution to the linux community. It’s not. At worst it’s a troll and thumb of the nose as they head out the door, and at best it’s unhelpful, and points the finger at Linux when that’s not where the finger belongs.

    Did no one know this game didn’t work until OP posted about it? Did OP contact the DEV to let them know they should do things differently? Has our understanding of the state of gaming on Linux been enhanced in any way? No, probably not, and no.




  • In 2023 we still have folks telling linux uses we have to kowtow to non-linux users?

    Someone doesn’t want to run linux, fine. Popping into a Linux community to stick your tongue out and letting folks know you are going back to Windows? That’s no better than a troll. Like those folks who used to make a big post to tell you they were leaving reddit or other forum because someone made them angry. (And I don’t mean the Spez debacle)

    ALL the shit that’s awful about MS and Windows is less awful to OP than running Linux. OK. Well, that’s free will.

    Some things in life don’t need to be announced. No one is shaking their head in sad defeat right now because OP went back to Windows.


  • Yep, Brother rocks.

    Too lazy for my usual lengthy monologue about Brother when this comes up, but works well with Linux, far more reasonable ink cost than any other brand I’ve tried, and the even low end ‘inkvestment’ model we have has really lived up to its claims regarding ink longevity. It doesn’t even hassle you when you use off brand ink, but I only tried hat once since I had so little complaint about the Brother ink. You do lose ink level indication, which is annoying, but that’s it, and manually checking level is also easy with this style of printer.