I agree that it’s not great that telemetry is shared, but to say that you buy it “just” to share your data is an exaggeration. I am sure you do useful things with it.
That said, yes, it is bloated and I wish you could really turn off all telemetry. Am totally with you on that.
I bet you’re the type to follow the docker install instructions*, arent you?
Thank you, I think the Cult of Docker does more harm than good for the selfhosting community in the long run as it encourages copy/paste admins. Manually installing services in LXC gives you all the advantages of Docker plus the full control of a VM or bare metal install.
As a long time working the ops side of things as a Unix/Linux admin, I love docker with k8s. The devs. can have whatever kind of ignorant environment setup they want. As long as the final image passes security, is up to date, and I can define the deployment parameters, it’s 100% on them how well it works in production.
yeah, and it makes it much much much worse if something goes wrong because theres a whole layer of stuff you have to understand (and even just knowing how to do basic stuff like reading logs, passing in configs, opening ports requires you learn how to do that, simple as it may be). I try to only use stuff I can install/configure on the base OS.
As I said, not a fan of Docker, but 8ks are really interesting and I want to learn more. I like especially the fact I can configure “pods” (is that the right term?) that multiply over different containers and hardware based on load and demand. The idea of a self-replicating swarm of threads is fascinating to me.
But using a docker to run mariadb and another docker to run a photo app and another docker to run a web server that connects over a docker network… and all this runs inside a VM, it’s wasted overhead to me. Especially today where everyone can run proxmox and vmware at home for free.
I agree that it’s not great that telemetry is shared, but to say that you buy it “just” to share your data is an exaggeration. I am sure you do useful things with it.
That said, yes, it is bloated and I wish you could really turn off all telemetry. Am totally with you on that.
please enumerate the services you would disable:
and the telemetry you would remove:
Win-debloat
whats this, a mystery application I should run as admin?
I bet you’re the type to follow the docker install instructions*, arent you?
*ie download and execute random untrusted scripts from the internet because this is somehow how you install docker.
Thank you, I think the Cult of Docker does more harm than good for the selfhosting community in the long run as it encourages copy/paste admins. Manually installing services in LXC gives you all the advantages of Docker plus the full control of a VM or bare metal install.
God I hate Docker. It’s a great system for lazy devs to NOT learn how to deploy software.
(I love LXC containers and QEMU, tho)
As a long time working the ops side of things as a Unix/Linux admin, I love docker with k8s. The devs. can have whatever kind of ignorant environment setup they want. As long as the final image passes security, is up to date, and I can define the deployment parameters, it’s 100% on them how well it works in production.
Docker is awesome for real production environments but trains home users to just copy/paste/enter random shit from the internet.
yeah, and it makes it much much much worse if something goes wrong because theres a whole layer of stuff you have to understand (and even just knowing how to do basic stuff like reading logs, passing in configs, opening ports requires you learn how to do that, simple as it may be). I try to only use stuff I can install/configure on the base OS.
As I said, not a fan of Docker, but 8ks are really interesting and I want to learn more. I like especially the fact I can configure “pods” (is that the right term?) that multiply over different containers and hardware based on load and demand. The idea of a self-replicating swarm of threads is fascinating to me.
But using a docker to run mariadb and another docker to run a photo app and another docker to run a web server that connects over a docker network… and all this runs inside a VM, it’s wasted overhead to me. Especially today where everyone can run proxmox and vmware at home for free.
I’ve found my people!
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Oh wow, aren’t you a cranky bitch. I didn’t say you "should " do anything, I linked a tool I’ve constantly been told good things about.
You know what they say about when you assume, you turn out to be an ignorant dipshit.
yes
please enumerate the services you would disable:
and the telemetry you would remove:
Heh. You. I like you.
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